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Park Seeds sells some pods - Refill Sponges for the Original 60-cell Planting Block.  Does anyone know if these will work in the AG?  I hate to think of paying for more seed pods!  Especially pods that I don't want/will use.

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TLC

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Peat and Gisette: Thanks for

Peat and Gisette:

Thanks for the welcome and conformations that the park sponges will work!  All pods planted less than two weeks ago (herbs) have sprouted and look good.  I'll keep you posted!

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Sorry for the delay - my Park

Sorry for the delay - my Park Seed 40-cell planting block replacement sponges got back-ordered, but they finally arrived.

Size comparison, 3 AG basket types, 40-cell planting block refill sponges, Park Starts refill sponge. 

They are definitely too big. But - I simply cut the bottom off and used that to plant my latest AG pepper. Not sure what I'm going to do with the top halves. But lopped, they're a way better fit than the narrow Park Starts sponges for the 7-pod baskets, and certainly cheaper than the AG sponges.

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FWIW, the first seeds I

FWIW, the first seeds I started in a 40-cell sponge, failed. It seems most likely that there was something wrong with my pro100 water - I cleaned the whole system today, with bleach (plants in a bowl of water). But also, I think I should have trimmed the sides of the sponge instead of ramming it in. It compacts, yes, but it's tougher for the seedling to fight its way through the compacted stuff.

Knock on wood, it should be a while before I have anything else to start in the 7-podders, to give this a second try.

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Thanks for the info Gisette. 

Thanks for the info Gisette.  This is the sort of thing that's good to know.  How do they compare to aerofalls?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sorry, Judith, can't tell

Sorry, Judith, can't tell that from one failed pod.

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I mean size wise & cost?    

I mean size wise & cost?

 

 

 

 

 

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FWIW, I've had some

FWIW, I've had some experience now using those 40-cell sponges - pretty poor results. Lot of failed germination and damp-off, in the AG's and just set in a paper cup. I think they don't breathe like the Park Starts inserts do, perhaps - too soggy.

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I just started some bee balm

I just started some bee balm in my Aerogarden 3-pod using a Perfect Start.   It fit without any adjusts.

Two weeks ago I started 4 tomatoes in them for transplant into a DIY system.  100% germination!

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Hi td_scott, being a bit of a

Hi td_scott, being a bit of a DIY builder myself, what are you going to plant your tomatoes in?

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I built an aeroponic fogger

I built an aeroponic fogger starter. Uploaded pix to my first growlog page.  More pixes to come..  I started vine tomatoes with Perfect Start #2 as mentioned.  Had great results with tomatoes.

Have sown Bee Balm into AG3 to replace dead Bergamont.  Watching and hoping for similar results.

 

Perfect Start #4 looks closer to the AG6/7 size.  I do not have AG6 yet.

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Thanks, td. Actually, what

Thanks, td.

Actually, what fits in an AG3 works well enough in an AG7. AG6 uses the same pods as AG3. The ones for AG7 are slightly wider/shorter - I take the same sponges I use for the AG3/6 style and just lop them shorter. (I use these sponges, because I have the styrofoam planting blocks that go with them.) They're a bit narrow. But I've also got fat ones like your Perfect Start #4 from Park Seed, too - those I need to chop into 3 pieces to use for the AG7 pods.

Looking forward to seeing your Bee Balm! I'm kinda slowly working toward having a tea herb garden myself. But as one of my AG's just died, most of that will be seed starts for spring planting. Have some mint plants so far, lemon balm, lemon basil, and borage seeds (those plants look pretty! and different!) and some pineapple sage outside that I'm hoping survives the winter - it's a perennial.

I asked Mom - she's still munching her last mesclun kit. But I gave her some pineapple sage to plant along with that (and some lemon basil, but I gather that died). She does use that in teas. The lemon basil and pineapple sage do taste very, very strongly of lemon and pineapple. Maybe I should ask her to save me another sage cutting when she retires the garden, just in case.

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Peat - Setup my growlog. Here

Peat - Setup my growlog. Here a pix of my 4 port DIY kit that I will be transplanting tomatoes into in 2 weeks. As well as a Perfect Start in an AG3 plug.

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Very cool, td_scott! Could

Very cool, td_scott! Could you give link & size for the Perfect Starts? I remember looking at those before and not being sure what size was the right size for the AG pods.

100% germination is nice!

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Size shown upstream, cost was

Size shown upstream, cost was $16.95 + shipping for 80. The thinner sponges (for narrower AG pod baskets) are cheaper - $10 for 108, I think. But much handier to buy the Park Starts block, pack of 3, to start off, if they have it in stock.

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Hello TLC and welcome. The

Hello TLC and welcome.

The Park refill sponges will work fine in your AeroGarden, they will also work out much cheaper than the AG sponges/peat pods.

 

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Hey, TLC, welcome!!! I use

Hey, TLC, welcome!!!

I use the Park Starts and their refill sponges all the time, for the AG6 / AG3 shape pods. For slower plants (ornamentals, or just time management), I've sometimes started plants in the Park Starts block, then transferred my pick of the seedlings into an Aerogarden Mini (the predecessor of the AG3). The block + sponges (they come 108 per $10 bag) make a cheap, flexible system for starting plants for indoors or outdoors.

Those sponges are a bit narrower than the long-narrow pod baskets. The width is OK, though.

I've just ordered the 40-cell biodome refill sponges to try in my AG7 baskets, and could tell you more when they arrive in a week or so. Apparently Park has been inundated with orders this year - a lot more people starting gardens from seed due to the economy. So they're back-ordered a bit.

I'll try to post pictures of both products with their respective baskets when they arrive. But I've been using the Park Start sponges for my AG minis since... June'08? They work great.

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Well, the 40-cell sponge

Well, the 40-cell sponge picture has to wait, but I can show you the Park Starts refill sponges now.

Park Starts replacement cylinders vs. AG7 basket (top) and AG3/AG6 basket (bottom). The bottom lettuce is growing in one of these sponges.  This size sponge doesn't fit well in the AG7 baskets.

The AG6 models use the same shape pod baskets as the AG3's. This topic on one of my ornamental AG projects, shows using the Park Starts block and AG mini together. Since coleus grow so slowly, and I wanted to pick which pattern to put in the mini, I let them grow next to the mini while I enjoyed the previous garden for three weeks, then moved the ones I wanted into the Aerogarden.

FWIW, I started two pods of romaine at the same time in the same mini. The first is pictured above. The second pod used the latest Aerogrow peat sponge in an AG7 basket in an AG mini. The growth is almost identical between the two pods - same height, though two different varieties of romaine lettuce.

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P.S. FWIW, I just plugged

P.S. FWIW, I just plugged some coleus cuttings into my Aerogarden Pro100. For that, I did use the AG7 Master Gardener break-apart baskets and cheap Park Starts narrow cylinders. Just chopped the ends off to shorten them, then stuck a bit of the bottom along the side of the basket to keep the sponge from rattling around. Good enough, since they won't be in the AG long. (These particular cuttings will go outside eventually, so they'll transplant to potting mix when they have roots.)