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12.7.08 - just planted a new lettuce garden from Gisette seeds she so graciously sent. I had Evergreen Seeds Korean red curl and Burpee toy choi growing in Rapid Rooter outriders since 11.19. I did some serious trimming of the RRs to fit them in an AG pod and hope I didn't do fatal damage to roots. They are looking better after just a few hours, though. The others, planted in the new peat pods are:

Evergreen Seeds Hybrid Bimitas

Burpee Simpson Elite

Evergreen Seeds Fragrant Choi

Burpee heatwave lettuce blend

Burpee toy choi (just in case)

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 Thanks again for all the

 Thanks again for all the links and suggestions everyone.  The Epicurious visual guide to lettuces is especially informative.

For now I have decided to try one or two pods of Butterhead, one pod of Burpee's Vivian Romaine, another of Little Caesar Romaine, and the rest will be the heatwave looseleaf mix.   That variety should give me a good idea of what works well for my setup...then I can re-evaluate for the second go-around.

So with the heatwave looseleaf mix, I assume the seeds are all mixed together...so you could end up with different types growing out of the same pod?  Does that ever cause a problem?  And sowing 4-5 seeds per pod and thinning to 3 plants is the key?

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Yes, the heatwave seeds are

Yes, the heatwave seeds are all mixed together. Perhaps I'm just goofy, but I sort the seeds by visible appearance and kinda plant similar-looking ones in the same pod. It is better not to have looseleaf and romaine types sharing a pod... and there are some lettuces in that mix that have hooked leaves that get tangled on everything...

You'll work it out. That's part of the fun.

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Hi Josh and welcome, I've

Hi Josh and welcome,

I've grown the butterhead type (Tom Thumb) in the AG, but transplanted it into a DIY aero setup which I built.

Everyone has pretty much covered the lot, it's basically grow and cut the whole thing down once the head has formed, but, you can harvest the leaves as they develop for a smaller snack if you want.

Thanks for the comment on my guide, flora series + lettuce = a great crop, you won't be disappointed. 

 

 

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Stonecold - Evergreen Seeds

Stonecold - Evergreen Seeds is where I got the Korean Red Curl. They've just been kinda going in and out of business for some reason.

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Found korean red curl online,

Found korean red curl online, http://www.evergreenseeds.com/koleredcu.html.

But you need to order $10 worth of stuff before shipping.

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Wow, thanks everyone for the

Wow, thanks everyone for the quick, helpful responses.  There is such a wealth of collective knowledge in this community, I love it! 

Gisette, that does make sense about the differences in the types of greens.  I have to admit though, I was kind of disappointed to hear about the "harvest all at once" nature of the head-forming lettuces.  I was hoping that I could just pick the outer leaves of a head of Butter (or Bibb, or Boston), and it would regenerate leaves from the inside out and keep on going and going.  Since I'm single and it's just me eating, I rarely need a whole head of lettuce at one time, much less 5-7 whole heads at once!

Has any one tried the perpetual 'much as you go' method with these head lettuces to know how they fare?  It sounds like from what Gisette was saying, loose leaf lettuces and Romaines can both be harvested continuously in this manner, and I think I will definitely plant some of those...but what I'm also really wanting to plant is Bibb/Butter/Boston.

The rest of the equation I think I have a handle on...  My kitchen is always cool (no baking), and I've already been very successful using Flora-series liquid nutes (thanks to Peat's guides!). 

Thanks again everyone!

-Josh-

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Josh - thanks for the kind

Josh - thanks for the kind comments.

I honestly just don't know about cut-and-come-again with the head lettuces. I didn't grow 'em because I'm in the same boat - mostly me eating the lettuce, with minor assists from a teenager and a guinea pig. And everywhere online suggested looseleaf lettuce for cut and come again. (Only AG suggested romaine that way, that I saw.) I know Beth has grown head lettuce, but then cropped the heads. Peat likewise. Jessijordan has mentioned Bibb, and said it was in her AG salad greens kit, but I don't know which lettuce she meant (sounded like what I'd always thought was a spindly romaine). Loose-headed lettuce might work...

If you try it, I hope you let us know how it goes for you!

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Josh, Which model of AG do

Josh,

Which model of AG do you have?  I know with my SS6, I doubt I would have enough room to grow head lettuce since the size of the the head of boston or other loose headed lettuce would probably cover 2-3 pods at maturity.   The difference with the cut and come again lettuce is that they tend to go up more than out.

Does not hurt to try a pod or two and plan some loose leaf too.

 

 

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 MaryH, I have the Deluxe

 MaryH, I have the Deluxe 7pod.  From what I'm reading, 8" is the size of most mature butter/bibb. So you're right, that would definitely cover 2-3 pods.  However I'm thinking I could keep it more contained by eating the outer leaves as it grows.  Maybe 4-6"? I guess there is only one way to find out!  I just ordered a variety of different things, I'll try them all and see what works well!

Thanks everyone for the input!  I'll come back and share what I find. Can't wait to start growing some lettuce!! 

 

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You never know until you

You never know until you try.  But I would probably do only 1-2 pods of the heads if I am experimenting :D

I found some Frisse (or curley chicory) seeds at the garden center today in my failed attempt to get pineapple sage plant and stevia plant and have been wondering if I can use them in AG. 

This might be interesting and give you some ideas of different salad greens...

http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/seasonalcooking/farmtotable/visualguidesaladgreens

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Hey all.  BB, great thread.

Hey all.  BB, great thread.  I'm getting ready to try lettuce for the first time in my AG Deluxe.  I'm most interested in growing Bibb, Butter Lettuce, and Red Leaf Lettuce.  I have contemplated buying the AG Salad Greens kit, but I already have the Deluxe Gardeners kit so it seems silly not to buy my own seeds and make my own pods.  

My biggest question though is how much seed to put in each pod.  From all the pictures I have seen, it seems as though between 5 and 10 sprouts emerge from each pod when using the AG Salad kit.  Does that mean I should put 5-10 lettuce seeds in each pod?  Does one plant eventually win out, or do multiple plants all grow somehow in that one pod?  

Also, are there certain types of Bibb, Butter, or Red Leaf that I should avoid?  Certain types that are better suited for the AG?

Thanks in advance!!

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Ironhalo - I'll also chime

Ironhalo - I'll also chime in, if you don't mind.

I haven't grown Bibb or Butterhead lettuces, because they form heads. For head-forming, you'd want only one plant per pod, and then wait until whole head ready, then crop completely. End of AG grow, time to replant all pods. (It doesn't work too well to restart some of the pods with lettuce seed while other pods are mature.) I prefer the perpetual salad concept, where I'm munching along the way, and have to replant the AG once every 2.5 - 4 months when the lettuces bolt. Or... maybe you could grow Bibb and Butterhead and pick leaves along the way... dunno.

The brassicas Mary likes aren't as productive as lettuces. (Though I grow some of those, too.)

So I like looseleaf reds and greens and romaines best, and they do grow best ~3 per pod, so plant 5 seeds and if need be, thin to 3. The red romaines are especially sweet and crunchy like the head lettuces. (Very important not to grow more than 3 per pod, though - they get very spindly when crowded, or if planted in the same pod with looseleaf.)

I've usually planted mixed lettuces, so don't know many by individual name. Burpee's lettuce heatwave looseleaf mix is very good. Our Korean Red Curl may be hard to find.

Looseleaf you can generally start eating in 3 weeks. Romaines in 4 weeks, but then they last longer. They need cool (always under 75 degrees) to do their best. If your house gets warmer, or they're in a working kitchen (baking happens), you might want to stick to romaines. Most romaines can take some heat without bolting too fast.

Hope some of that's useful.

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Hi Gisette, Good to know

Hi Gisette,

Good to know about 3 per pod.  I am planning to go down to 4-5 seeds for my next try and thin.  At what timeframe do you thin down to 3 plants?

I like the brassicas and they are expensive to buy so growing them makes sense even if less productive.  My Mom also likes them and she also likes Frisee which I have not been able to find seeds for yet.  Found seeds for Mesclun, arugula, lettuce mix and Lettuce Merlot.  Also looked for Koren Red curl but have not been able to find them yet.

About to go to the garden center to see if I can get pineapple sage and stevia. 

 

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I haven't been thinning to 3

I haven't been thinning to 3 plants for very long - used to grow 8-10 like AG seeded them. Maybe thin at 1 week? Before true leaves. With scissors - don't pull, or you'll disrupt the other seedling roots. Or with looseleaf (not romaine), could wait until 3 weeks and crop all but three plants. Romaine... better to thin at 1 week, since they react so badly to crowding. Brassicas... similar considerations.

I like and grow some brassicas. Especially komatsuna, tendergreen mustard, and toy choi (mini pak choi). But - since Ironhalo seemed to want lettuces in the first place, I think he'd (she'd?) be less happy with the brassicas.

Good luck with the pineapple sage and stevia!

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I will pickup the

I will pickup the mini-greenhouse and some AG kits this weekend from friends including one with Sorrel pod and will try to plant that when I get it and use young leaves for salads.

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ironhalo, I am growing a

ironhalo,

I am growing a mixed salad green garden so might chip in a little with my own experience which is not as deep as Peat, Gisette and BB.

I had help my Mom with her SS6 end of Jan and we thrown in 1 pod of salad green with 5 pods of herb for fun and it grows okay on AG herb tablets.  After 4-5 weeks it has about 5 plants but the weakness tend to die every so often and this week, 3 months after planting, it bolted and the 3rd last died so I pulled the pod. 

I started my own SS6 Apr 7 with 3 pods of Salad Greens, 1 pod of arugula from my own seeds, 1 pod of custom mesclun and a week later did a pod of grand rapid lettuce, this one on rockwool.  Arugula and mesclun grew slower than the salad greens but have better taste.  I put about 6 seeds in each custom pods and all germinated for arugula and mesclun.  The Salad green had 8-9 germinate for each pod and I think it might be a little too high since at 3 weeks, they are still a bit floopy and spindly where someone else had about 6 salad green in one pod germinate seems much healthier at the same timeframe.  Depending on the germination rate of your, i would not put that much in and would be tempted to put less and throw a few more seeds in if germination proved low..  I would probably aim for 4 maximum 5 next time I plant my own greens.

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Hi Gisette, Yes, an adaptable

Hi Gisette,

Yes, an adaptable plant.  The one KRC I planted late in the home ag is being overwhelmed by the other lettuces (letti?). It is pale at the moment, but I just clipped salad for dinner to give it space and light.  All the work lettuces were pale, even in this second grow.  I switched to more recent nutrient tabs (this was an ag from a local nursery that had to be stored in a humid area - the tabs were one big soggy clump).  They are looking better now.  I wondered if the color of the ag matters (all others are black, work ag is white).  But I think it was just old soggy nutes.  I'll take pix on Thursday.  I'm taking the day off from work tomorrow to transplant many, many tomato plants.  Some for the garden, some for friends and family, and some for an annual plant sale.  Then I do peppers.  I always say never again and do it all over again....

Beth

 

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Interesting. Yeah, actually,

Interesting. Yeah, actually, one of the KRC's many tolerances is a wide range of nutrient regimes. If the thing only bolted, it might take over the world, huh? But we like it not bolting. My KRC sharing an AG3 with older romaines is growing very slow and pale. But, it grows.

I found every time I grew lettuce with AG tabs, they grew so fast they ran out of nutes before the first 2 week feeding, so I give them a dab of Flora Gro or Micro or just fast-forward the feeding schedule.

LOL! I know what you mean on the other-people's-plants. I've got 18 marigolds and 6 nasturtiums under development to decorate the condo business office, plus sundry vegetables for Mom and neighbors. Have fun taking your planting day off!

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Pinetree seed is Asian Red

Pinetree seed is Asian Red Lettuce.  "Bright red crinkled loose leaves with a crisp and flavorful taste"

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Could be! Hard to tell

Could be! Hard to tell without a picture. Almost hard to tell with a picture, since it's such a plastic plant - reconfigures itself to whatever conditions I've set it in, so far. Different leaf color, thickness, texture, size...

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Hi Gisette,   They're 20 days

Hi Gisette,

  They're 20 days old and just started coloring up.  Oh, and I found a similar sounding variety in the Pinetree catalog.  Can't recall the name.

Beth

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Nice, Beth - should be ready

Nice, Beth - should be ready to start munching soon! I hope to see pictures sometime, if you've time to share!

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The plant that keeps on

The plant that keeps on giving!  I've got two baby KRC (courtesy of Gisette) at work - I can't wait to taste them! 

Beth

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How old are they now, Beth?

How old are they now, Beth? Growing well?

I'm trying one outside now. It's very red!!!

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I had sort of a weak week and

I had sort of a weak week and never got around to replanting the lettuce or herb gardens. I had a good look at the lettuce de Gisette AG and all but one hole is covered by red curl, even the heatwave mix trying valiently to come back. Any suggestions? I'm thinking of whacking them about halfway and planting a few things that can compete. How would mustard do, Gesette?

 

 

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If you keep all the

If you keep all the falling-down outer curl leaves religiously pruned, and the nutes set for seedlings instead of adult curl, most greens will probably work. Any way you could move the two curls next to each other? Or possibly into an outrider... they do remarkably well just sitting next to my pro100 in a small tub of growrocks. Losing a few roots here and there probably wouldn't much fuss them. The solar blanket to include the outriders in the pro100 lightspace, helps a lot.

Tendergreen mustard grows as fast as toy choi :  ~ 4 weeks to maturity, for a bigger plant. Komatsuna is slower, and a really weak competitor. Avoid romaines sandwiched between red curls - they're a bit slower to get started and go gangly if they have to stretch for light - they'll turn into crawling vines. The heatwave mix is half romaines.

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Sorry to have been gone so

Sorry to have been gone so long and done so little the last week or so. I haven't done anything with the lettuce garden and the red curl is huge, even after a couple trimmings for salads. Hopefully I'll be able to get two new crops going soon. Here's what it looks like today, two plants almost covering the entire top....

 

 

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Now there's only one red curl

Now there's only one red curl plant left but after a dozen or more salads and EC going almost off the chart, it's still chugging along. Thanks much for the seeds gisette, it's a real pleasure just watching it.

 

 

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You're welcome. Thanks for

You're welcome. Thanks for showing its pictures! That's quite a plant. And growing for you much better than it grows for me - you give me hope.

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Wish I could get a Deluxe

Wish I could get a Deluxe over there for you Peat but you'd have a heck of a fireworks show when you plugged it in. The lights do make quite a difference I'm sure, the peppers and lettuce in them are growing like crazy.Your formulas and tips helped just as much, thanks.

I hope this will work, it's a picasa slideshow of the lettuce AG almost daily from the beginning and it's awesome seeing how it grows, gets whacked and grows some more. You can tell when I started to edit in picasa and got the new camera.....

picasaweb.google.com/av8ndv8/LettuceDeGisette#slideshow/5297715574578633714

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This just shows how much it

This just shows how much it grows after a good scything! Pretty amazing really, lettuce is such a success in the AG.

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Great slideshow, Bruce! The

Great slideshow, Bruce! The lettuce definitely grows faster in the Deluxe.

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I think the lettuce garden

I think the lettuce garden was a resounding success. We wiped out most of it tonight, just leaving a couple of red curl plants planted a few weeks ago. I'll clean and reseed with a mesclun mix tomorrow. It had a great run, seeds planted 12/7 and I lost count of how many great salads we had but the fragrant choi had bolted and some of the others were getting a little tough and bitter. There will always be a lettuce AG on the table after seeing how this produced, thanks gisette.

We had a couple of huge salads with fresh lettuce and tomatoes picked about ten minutes before dinner time. Wonderful!

The whiskey bottle trash tomatoes taste great and have three more almost ready to eat, a dozen or so 2" or more and another dozen or more from pea size to almost 2" plus a couple dozen flowers.

     

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That was the healthiest,

That was the healthiest, happiest looking lettuce garden, Bruce! Wish mine looked so lush... Which varieties of lettuce did y'all like best, or no real opinion?

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Thanks for the compliment,

Thanks for the compliment, makes me all warm and fuzzy. It's hard to say what we liked best, especially since we had the heatwave mix and usually mixed everything all together in a salad. Something had a little bite to it that I wasn't crazy about but liked it enough to not research what it was. The Simpson and heatwave mix were my favorites to walk by and graze a little, Maere loves the red curl, the choi, Simpson - ahh, all of it! Thanks so much! We're going to wait a day or two before deciding what to put in the lettuce garden and possibly in the herb garden.

Oh, I just had a thought why it turned out so well and please correct me if I'm on the wrong track, we're both dazzled how great it was... I was pretty stingy with the seeds and only put two or three in a pod. If I remember, the master gardner kit's manual recommends putting 8 - 10 in a pod. Could that have made a difference? Other than that, all I did was follow Peat's nute mixes fairly close and kept EC and PH somewhere near correct and never changed the water. All the AGs have ancient water in them, it takes a major disaster for me to change water. Other than that it was beginner's luck.

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That could be, that fewer

That could be, that fewer plants gave better results! I've definitely noticed that with romaines - I'd never seen any worth having, just limp stringy straggly things. Then accidentally there came a pod with only 3-4 plants, and they got stocky and thrived. My latest replacement romaine pod, I only planted 4 seeds. Should try it with the other varieties as well. Thanks!

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Now there's an idea, I have

Now there's an idea, I have always put in a good 8 seeds in case of failures. Think I'll try a mix of 8 in some pods and 3-4 in the others.

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That sounds like a great

That sounds like a great combination she'll love. How is her back doing? She could almost sit and watch the lettuce grow but exercise is a good thing. I spent some time in Picasa today and love it! Got rid of a bunch of non-picture stuff like different program logos, backgrounds, etc. I spent an hour just browsing through pictures from '99 remembering old times, that was really nice.

Here's the lettuce today at 2 weeks (Left & right rear spent 2 weeks in outrider) before we harvested some for salad and a neat picture looking towards the peppers, just for grins..


Edit... You can see the red curl, the heatwave mix is almost hidden next to it, toy choi front center and right rear and new heatwave mix above the cover in 3 days. Should be a beautiful sight.

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Mom's back surgery went

Mom's back surgery went amazingly well, thanks. In less than a week, she was home, and her doctor has prescribed no PT, just walk all she can. And she says she's had no pain or painkillers since the first couple days' surgical discomfort. And she'd been in agony from her back for months. Going for a 3-week trip to Japan right before the surgery, in pain, didn't help... She's still wearing a back brace, but looks good!

Glad you like Picasa. These pictures weren't processed thru Picasa, though, were they?

Your plants already are a beautiful sight. The peppers and red curl are lovely. Are you going to put more lettuce plants in the toy choi slots once they're harvested?

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Umm... no ma'am, I haven't

Umm... no ma'am, I haven't figured out how to process thru picasa yet, I'm old and slow, gimme a break. Toy choi - is it a one time harvest and if so, when? The way everything else is growing I may not have room for new lettuce plants. Our salads were great last night, BTW, mostly home grown lettuce and herbs with some store bought stuff to bulk it up a little - wonderful but like you mentioned, the red curl had no particular taste to it.

Great to hear about your mother, really glad she's moving and not needing painkillers. I was forbidden to work for 3 months when I had my first laminectomy back in the late 70s. After 5 weeks I was going stir crazy sitting around the house so asked the doctor if I could do some hiking. He said I could do a little but quit if it hurt. I did a 16 mile backpack trip with about 2,000 ft. elevation gain and back down carrying a 35# pack. Never hurt a bit. I'm a firm believer in exercise after surgery.

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LOL! I trust you didn't admit

LOL! I trust you didn't admit that 16 mile hike to your doctor? 

In Picasa, to make an album, you do File | New Album. Drag pictures into it, massaged and captioned and reordered as desired. When album arranged to your liking, right-click on album name in the list to the left. On right-click menu, select Upload to web album. Decide whether it's public or private, and let it rip. If you don't have a Picasa/Google account yet, you might need to fill in forms to register the first time. When it's done uploading, click button to view album of pictures online. Easy.

Toy choi get about 4" tall, in 4-5 weeks. Yours are nearly there. Then you eat them whole. Yes, one-time harvest. Kind of a silly crop, but I think they're cute. And sometimes it's handy to have a 4-week crop between other plans...

The thing that interested me in the red curl description, is that when the leaves get bigger, they're used as wraps, like for spring rolls or seafood salad or egg salad or fried rice. Kind of wrap a cigar out of them. Which sounded fun. Most of these lettuces aren't really tough enough for that kinda thing.

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3 weeks minus one day - we're

3 weeks minus one day - we're being overrun! This stuff has gotten completely out of control, we need to do some serious trimming, please, please tell me what to trim and maybe harvest the oldest toy choi? What about the fragrant choi, is it a one time crop too? It's almost ready to audition for The Little Shop of Horrors, covering almost everything. Here's a quick shot, I hate to get too close.   I can give you close-ups if you want. This is simply amazing.

The Monster

Edit.... Just did a google search for Fragrant Choi and this site came up #4. Nice job!

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Aw! A salad!  Your fragrant

Aw! A salad!  Your fragrant choi looks much better than mine ever did...

Yeah, if they're big enough, you can eat the toy choi now. Fragrant choi should be cut & come again like the others... Standard procedure with the lettuces is to harvest no more than 1/3 of the plant at a time, once every few days or so. Starting tomorrow. At age three weeks.

See? Aren't they a satisfying crop to grow? It could be tough getting something else started in the toy choi slot, though.

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Aw? I'm about to rent this

Aw? I'm about to rent this thing its own apartment and all I get is Aw?    We have a fantastic ham and it's time for a ham salad. Ain't gonna wait 'til tomorrow, we'll need the kitchen in the morning.

 

Edit... what did you have to do to my URLs?

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Your plants are wonderful,

Your plants are wonderful, magnificent, truly monstrously big!!!

That better?  Remember, I've grown lettuce a few times before. Though your fragrant choi definitely leaves mine in the dust.

I mentioned in one of the ones I fixed - use "s640" instead of "s912" on the link-to url. I have a huge screen, but I keep the browser only half-wide. The lightboxes then opened up as broken links. 640 works best...

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Ah, gotcha on the size, will

Ah, gotcha on the size, will do. I took a machete to it and we had two huuuge salads with fresh basil and ham, one of the best salads I've ever had. I harvested the spindly toy choi from the outrider, the stems coming out of the grow sponge were about the size of pencil leads but the plants developed a few nice firm white stems. Good stuff, thanks for the seeds.

Peat
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Hey Bruce, what are you doing

Hey Bruce, what are you doing here - you're putting my aerated AG to shame!

Nice work on the lettuce, they do grow rather well don't they. Aw! - fantastic.

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I have no idea what I'm doing

I have no idea what I'm doing special but this lettuce is really something, I've raised the light a half section and keep trimming the taller stuff. We've had three huge salads plus nip off a piece now and then to nibble on and it's still huge. We're going to have a couple of big salads tonight to celebrate having it

1 month now...

1 month, salad time again!

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Looks good! Don't think

Looks good! Don't think there's much unusual about it - Peat and I grew lettuce under smaller caliber lights. Looks just about right for more light.

Dumb question (TM) : how do you raise Deluxe lights "a half section"? Maybe I should go find the manual, huh... 

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how do you raise Deluxe

how do you raise Deluxe lights "a half section"?

I never saw it mentioned in the literature but when I first raised the lights I just pushed the button for a second and started raising, it stopped halfway. Makes sense once you think about it, raising a full section is a big jump.