Cucumbers Grown in the AeroGarden?

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Gisette, this is just for you, and to satisfy my own curiosity...

I'm going to stall the Classic Re-Design where I intended to trial the AG6 pods out. I only have two AG's (one is currently full of tomatoes) and want to try this cucumber experiment over the pods. I will come back to this after.

I am aware that cucumbers grow tall, I therefore have no idea how this will turn out...

The cucumbers I will plant are these: Thompson & Morgan Zeina F1 Hybrid

They produce mini cucumbers and are all female, so there will be no pollinating to do. I will plant these tonight, they will be grown using the GH hydroponic nutrients. To save them becoming too tall, I will pinch out the growing tip when they have outgrown my Classic.

I will plant this one seed into an AG6 pod filled with rockwool. My Classic will not have a water pump, instead I will grow this using my air stone and air pump.

Cucumbers Harvested up to 2nd May 2009 - End of project.

22 Weeks of Growth - 10 

 

Photo Snippets

Starting Week   AG6 Pod and Rockwool   AG6 Pod filled with Rockwool   AG6 pod in the Classic, using my bubbler system   Week 6 roots, plenty of...   First Harvest - Week 7 + 4 Days   Week 8 wandering vine!  Two more for the salad (Week 13)   More forming...   More... (Week 17)   Week 21 - Drastic prune...!   Week 21 - Final harvest after drastic pruning...

Weekly Grow Pictures

3 Days Growth   Week 1   Week 3   Week 4   Week 5   Week 6   Week 6 Cucumber   Week 7   First Harvest. Week 7 + 4 Days   Week 8   Week 9   Week10   Week 11   Week 12   Week 13   Week 14   Week 15   Week 16   Week 17   Week 19   Week 20   Week 21   Week 21 - Severe prune...   Week 22 - End of grow due to stem splitting...

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Welcome, SweetCaroline!

I hope Peat answers, but I haven't seen him around in a while. It was an Aerogarden Classic he used - much modified - the original shorter 7-podder kind, with careful custom nutrients.

Cucumbers are easy outside. Unless the bugs get 'em... They are huge plants, and will appreciate anything you give them to clamber on. Though at my old place, I mostly let them clamber over the shrubbery!

Your 3 sisters plan sounds really cool - good luck with it!

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Wow! 6" cucumbers in 6 weeks of growth. I just put lettuces out and it is not quite 1 week and all but one is up over the labels. However, still seems slow when I look every day. Your cucumbers seemed to have really grown fast. Congratulations. that was the Elite wasn't it? Or was it a shorter one? i'd love cucumbers but don't want to give up the growing abilities to get it. I think I'll just plant some cucumbers outside. I do have a box smaller than an earthbox but sort of the same thing. I have some strawberries growing well in one. Think I'll put some tomatoes in one and I have another that I am going to put 3 corn plants, surround by beans (3 or 4) and then put squash on the bottom to give shade. the 3 sisters method of the Native Americans with kelp as fertilizer. my husband has been using miracle grow on the other though. I got a 4 x 4 cedar thing to make a 4 ft garden. Might put up some 4 x 4's on each side and put up a fence thing to grow on and put in cucumber there and let it grow up. It is fantastic that you can get edible cucumbes in 5 or 6 weeks.
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Thank you Beth, I hope I can get this working using the table which you gave me. If you hadn't, then I would probably not be doing this so quickly.

I've pretty much sorted the dosage out now, I think.

Seedling Phase: Hardwater Micro 7mL, Grow 7mL and Bloom 2mL. I'll be giving and EC of 0.8 for this.

10 days until 1st fruit set: Hardwater Micro 14mL, Grow 15mL and Bloom 4mL. The EC will be adjusted for 1.6

Maturity/Fruiting: Hardwater Micro 11mL, Grow 19mL and Bloom 3mL. EC adjusted for 2.0, I may vary this up or down depending on how the cuke grows.

These feeds will give the same results, or near enough, of Dr Resh's levels - they are all adjusted for 3 litres. The dosages are quite high and very different from the norm, lots of diluting down methinks. I will still be adding my calcium supplement as my hardwater micro has very little in, we shall see how this all works out...

 

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Hi Peat,

  I'm so glad that you are giving it another shot!  If anyone can figure out the way to do it - I'm sure you can!  I'm looking forward to your progress-

Beth

 


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Week 22

After a good start the little cuke has keeled over, the leaves are floppy and lifeless. The stem has split... You can see it in the photo below, there are also two other splits in different locations.  A prune too far...

So, not much choice really - time to remove it after 22 weeks of variable growth and much head scratching over what to feed it.

Conclusion?

The cuke is the hardest plant I have ever grown, it produced 10 cukes in 22 weeks, not a show stopper, but it was fun to do and we had some really tasty cukes. 

Why did it not produce? Hard to answer that one, two possibilities are that the nutrients were wrong or that the AG just cannot support this plant due to restrictions in the root zone.

Can you grow cukes in the AeroGarden? The answer has to be 'yes', just. As for growing them with AG standard tablets then I would have to say 'no'. If the plant had trouble with a 3-part nutrient then it will have major trouble with a one-shot singular feed.

 

What's next then - well I'm going to give it another go, grow another plant. I'm going to completely revamp the whole feeding schedule away from the stock GH formula, I have decided to follow the advice of Dr H.M Resh and go with his feed. I'll work out the best composition from the GH calculator and adjust my nutrients to this, I will also be adding my hydroponic calcium supplement to get this up to the desired levels. I'll detail all this in another cuke thread which I'll start.

Not much to do then.

 

Week 22 - End of grow due to stem splitting...

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I can relate to this Beth, I've had two pumps go on me and two that became noisy. That's why I dumped this growing method and went to full aeration using an air stone in my Classic - better growth as well.

I'll continue on with different concoctions in the hope of solving the lack of cukes...

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Hi All,

  I stopped on the way home from work and picked up some distilled water.  I came home to find out that the ag pump has stopped working in the cuc deluxe.  I did check the connections, no corrosion, and the base doesn't work in the other ag deluxe. I'm not sure when it stopped, but I think that is it for this cuc grow.   I promise to pick up this experiment in the fall.  For now, I'll rely on you good folks for continued experimentation. Oh well....

Beth

 


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Beth: don't give up on the cuke just yet.  I dropped my EC to 2.4 a few days ago, and when I checked this morning, I have new HEALTHY baby cukes!  I'm still feeding (when needed) the 10-10-10, and the older cukes are fattening up just fine. 

Peat:  I also noticed that the two plants aren't responding the same way.  They are definitely different, in spite of getting the same treatment, -- light, nutes, etc.  One plant has only one good size cuke, ready to be picked actually, and only a few babies still green.  (not dried up)  The other plant has 3 cukes almost ready to be picked, one about 1/3  grown, and several babies still green.  And this is the same plant I've already harvested one from.  This plant is also the one that I sort of broke the gowing tip, but per one of your posts, I didn't cut it off, just supported it from below, and let it do it's thing.  It stayed healthy, and that plant has produced the best.  (the growing tip continued to grow also)   Really strange, but like people I guess!   lol  No two alike!

Gisette: I've saved that info you found,  thank you.  Have you thought about the  trash can cuke?  Water, nutes, neglect, and sunshine!   Hmmmmmm   I'm at EC 2.4 right now, and will wait a few more days to see if the babies dry up.  If so, I'll drop it a bit more.  Today they look good.  Time will tell.

 

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I know what you are saying about the calcium being non-mobile Beth, but here is a quote from Dr Howard Resh - Hydroponic Food Production...

Brittle tissue: leaves, petioles, stems may lack flexibility, break of easily when touched - calcium or boron deficiency.

That's what got me onto the whole calcium thing. I've got a huge setback at the moment, not much plant left after it's pruning! But, it's actually started to grow rather well, surprisingly; new leaves are developing rapidly on a particular node. It's going to be some time before it will produce cukes though, in the interim I will feed it the extra calcium supplement and see if the leaves become brittle. If they don't, then I will be particularly happy.

I'm glad you are sticking with this also, that's three of us tinkering around now - hopefully one of us will turn up with the correct solution.

AeroGarden Mastery - blazing new trails with hydroponic growing...  

 

 

 

 

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Hi All,

  Well, my cuc is about to be declared a failure.  The 10-10-10ml did not work for me, either - all the baby cucs just dry up .  Oldest leaves still get dry and crispy.  I was also searching the net for answers and playing with the calculator yesterday.  I looked at the floramato, too.  That doesn't seem to have alot of calcium, either.   But, calcium is not a mobile nute so deficiency would show up in new leaves first - my new leaves look OK. I plugged in 6 ml micro, 12 ml gro and 10 ml bloom per 3 liters and it worked out to 170 N, 100 P, 336 K and 102 Calcium. (I was really trying to bring down N and raise potassium.)  I may give this a shot "just because".  I think the 10-10-10ml has way too much nitrogen (220 ppm).  It's got to be the nutes - we're growing different varieties, different ways, different environments (but all inside under lights).  Recall I DID get cucs from the castoff cucino tucked in with the swiss chard inside under lights.  I'm half tempted to stick the ag outside!  I'm just surprised at the lack of info out on the net!  I'm going to keep at it, though...

 

Beth


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